newspaper: Re: [Anti_Bush_Database] Re: Kari: Death of the Democratic Party/DNC & America

I suppose this is because you have not seen how it is really

suppose to work. What I said is true. Without a Veto Proof

Majority there can be no Conviction on impeachment. It takes

67 votes to convict on Impeachment Indictment. If you don't

believe me look it up in the Constitution. When I went to school

they didn't just teach us to take tests. They showed us how the

Government worked by setting up a government in government

class and had us learn exactly how the Constitution works.

What I said it 100 percent true.

Kari Ana

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----- Original Message -----

From: jerseyshoreweb@optonline.net

To: Anti_Bush_Database@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 10:16 PM

Subject: Re: [Anti_Bush_Database] Re: Kari: Death of the Democratic Party/DNC & America

I think yer analysis and conclusions ......ludicrous comes to mind and yer myoptic vision borders on bizarre

I think its lookin like the last election.........not much diff between the two parties

soooo ........why would peeps vote for bush lite if they can have bush?

and the repug cheat machine is waiting in the bowels to spring to life if there is a close vote somewhere........they are pros at this

fraud being perped on the american peeps needs to be exposed.......the peeps need to be made aware of just what is happening to them......that is the battlefront......overcoming the pig media's lies .distortions ........and blaise approach to real things............

unless you feel just fine in la la land....where both parties are.......I don't

who could actually give a flyin hershey squirt about health care if we're ready to get killed?

troops home

go nader

----- Original Message -----
From: Kari A Smith
Date: Saturday, March 15, 2008 4:17 pm
Subject: Re: [Anti_Bush_Database] Re: Kari: Death of the Democratic Party/DNC & America
To: Anti_Bush_Database@yahoogroups.com

> A study was done before the 2006 election that showed that if the
>
> Democrats gain control of the House and the Senate not veto proof
>
> control of course, that if the Democrats then impeach that they'd
>
> lose the election 2008 and control of the House and Senate.
>
> Without 67 plus votes in the Senate the Democrats impeachment
>
> will look like a political move not a move for Justice. It is
>
> unfortunately not a good thing to do. This was why when we did
>
> not get enough of a majority to be able to impeach and convict the
>
> new Speaker of the House had to say impeachment was off the
>
> table. The FACT that Shrub keeps vetoing these bills which the
>
> people want should have the same effect on the GOP as an
>
> impeachment without conviction would do for the Democrats.
>
> Until we have the White House or a veto proof Senate and House
>
> we are going to have gridlock. It is how our Government works
>
> at this time. Just because the GOP made only political moves from
>
> the time they gained control and even after because they have the
>
> White House doesn't mean the Democrats should forget how the
>
> party in Control of Congress are supposed to work within the rules.
>
> Some call it no spine, others call it respect for those who support
>
> the minority party. It may be frustrating but at least we know our
>
> party is not running rough shod over those who vote for the GOP.
>
> You may not like what is going on but the majority of people in
>
> the US will be voting Democrat in 2008 because the Democrats
>
> have chosen to not impeach Shrub and Cheney because after
>
> Impeachment there are not the GOP votes to CONVICT.
> Kari Ana
>
> ---------------------------------------
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: ShunkW
> To:
> Anti_Bush_Database@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 4:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [Anti_Bush_Database] Re: Kari: Death of the
> Democratic Party/DNC & America
>
>
> What good is it to "put it on the table" when it still won't
> go anywhere?
>
>
> Lee Mentley wrote:
> Really...? All it takes is Pelosi to give John Conyers the
> nod and we have Impeachment on the table, but she won't...? In
> the Senate it only takes ONE Senator to put a hold on a bill,
> including funding for the war but no one has...? The Dems have
> allowed Bush to have everything he wants...! That is a ONE Party
> System...!
> Kari A Smith
> wrote:
> It isn't true. Until the Democrats get a veto proof
> majority or
>
> gain the White House, there is no way anyone can logically
>
> believe there is only a one party system. After 2008 it
> is possible
>
> the GOP might be pretty much on the ropes.
> Kari Ana
>
> ---------------------------------------
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Lee Mentley
> To: Gov. Howard
> Dean ; California
> Democratic Party
> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 4:23 AM
> Subject: [Anti_Bush_Database] Death of the Democratic
> Party/DNC & America
>
>
> It amazes me that people are just now waking up to the
> ONE Party System that has been in place since the end of the New
> Deal and the attack on the Middle Class, the bankruptcy of
> America by Ronald Reagan and his ever present minions hiding
> behind the flag and their so-called god...?
>
> They now also have front men for the smaller parties
> as well...! There is no law & there is no freedom...!
>
> For instance do you know how much oil is under the
> people we are allowing to be killed in Darfur, while we claim to
> want to bring democracy to the world...?
>
> Americans have sat on the couch for far to long and
> not participated in the democratic process, so this is where we
> are...!
>
> I would now buy some Grounded Shoes for this years
> political process because the tazers and worse are coming...! Lee
>
>
> FYI, From Scott Peden:
>
> Some how, I am floundering in disbelief.
>
> The DLC, whose members have been voting to the right
> of the republican party platform and continual warfare, who
> embrace magazines which claim to be liberal but have constantly,
> as the DLC 'Democrats' support the war effort and GW's Bush's
> agenda the last 7 years, (in case you wondered why all those
> terrible acts of legislation went through, it wasn't wrangling
> for votes that they never got back, it is because they SUPPORT
> the Agendas THEY CAST THEIR VOTES FOR) and this magazine claims
> to be Liberal yet promotes war and corporate agenda..... and we
> as a nation, we as a body of people who label ourselves
> liberal.... do the Orwellian dance and explain away all the
> hypocrisies and call people and magazines that do not promote
> Liberal or Progress or Peace or Freedom, but support the
> suspension of OUR CONSTITUTION and continued warfare that is
> NEVER declared WAR so that the WAR PROFITEERING ACT can be
> implemented..... which means they are all for raping you and I
> the tax payer.....
>
> ........and not only do the politicians though Liberal
> labeled paper, The New Republic and DLC promote a plank that
> is anything BUT what the Democratic party Plank is, BUT
>
> The DLC, the 'to the right of the Republican party
> Plank' Democrats, some call 'centrists' though there is nothing
> Moderate about them at all, is the only part of the so called
> "Democratic party" that the MSM will even acknowledge exists.
> They run War candidates vying for the position of Commander in Chief.
>
> Don't all these 'to the right of' Republican buzz
> words coming from groups cloaked in the Democratic party Label,
> bother anyone still in the Democratic party? NO? Because you
> have to vote with who ever they decide you will vote for? Your
> Liberal or Progressive views only count when the other party is
> in office?
>
> It makes perfect sense to me now why such a high
> percentage of people polled as Independents, and to a lesser
> degree Green's and Socialists all state they got there via the
> Democratic party but left cause they had no representation. I
> always wondered why they didn't stay and fight to make it what
> most of us have wanted.
>
> 1984 and the Orwellian way of life isn't just for
> Republicans anymore, if it is good enough to take over the
> Republican Party, it is good enough to take over the Democratic
> Party too..... and I was so immersed in the Orwellianism of the
> two headed Democratic party, I didn't even see it, till I saw so
> many Democrats support the 'to the right of the Republican Party
> Plank' that most of the Republicans also support. Perpetual War.
> 7 years of the Democrats, even when the have the Senate and
> Congress, still voting for Bush's most major items we have
> screamed to end, the War, give us our constitution back, and
> support Social Agendas and stop supporting the corporate and
> especially the international Corporate agenda.
>
> Everyone running for "Commander in Chief' Rushed to
> back up Bush, who is known for his intelligence reports for
> being fabrications, to scream to the world at large NUCLEAR
> OPTIONS ARE ON THE TABLE, as if they were the only people who
> hadn't a clue that Iran is a Non Nuclear nation much less a non
> nuclear weapon nation.
>
> The MSM only allowed the public to hear of the WAR
> CANDIDATES, only allowed us to hear about those running for
> COMMANDER IN CHIEF..... and few screamed that this isn't what
> their party stands instead those terrible voting records are
> ignored and we fight over personalities and ANYTHING BUT
> ISSUES.n We're getting a smoke screen from what we think is a
> group that supports the Democratic party Plank, yet they support
> darned near anything but that, though they don't forget to toss
> us scraps, but any mega legislation is Pro Corporate and Anti Social.
>
> The talk from members of both parties of taking thiner
> party back, is now understandable why no dent was ever made and
> the disparity of what our representative's vote for compared to
> what we want makes more sense, and we'll fight tooth and nail to
> support those things they do that are contrary to the values and
> morals we have, just because the other mislabeled party is more
> evil then ours.
>
> As several exceptionally active activists have pointed
> out, they will fight tooth and nail for either one of those
> labeled with a D, no matter their voting record or policies,
> which show they support everything we have screamed was bad over
> the last 7 years, Pro Preemptive War (Nuclear Options are on the
> table for a non nuclear non aggressive nation, just as in
> Afghanistan and Iraq) and slaughtering of our economy, the
> energy crisis, first the power delivered at home, then the car
> and home fuel international corporate scam, and on and on goes
> the corporate welfare and no responsibility agenda, and our
> representatives borrow money that we the taxpayers have to pay
> (no matter who is in charge of our land mass, or what our nation
> is called, the bankers made sure of that or the loans would be
> too risky).
>
> And I use to wonder why we haven't been able to get a
> Democrat that supported the Democratic party Plank to run for
> President, AND GET SUPPORT FROM THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY ITSELF, it
> hasn't happened in decades.
>
> Cause the Democratic party Plank is just something
> pretty to hang on the wall like that other non or ill used piece
> of paper, the Constitution of the United States of America.
>
> A representative Democracy.... in name only.
>
> Oh my God..... what happened..... I really wished I
> hadn't woken up.... it's lot worse then even I had imagined.
>
> There aren't any parties to take back......... it is
> just one party with the MSM working like their shadow and the
> agenda resembles Fascism and only shadows of what we were taught
> we had, a Representative Democracy (unless you were taught we
> we're a Democracy and never looked up what a mob that is and
> figured out that is why we have REPRESENTATIVES instead of a
> Democracy for each and every law that gets looked at).
>
> Scott
>
>
>
>
>
>
> HRH Lee Mentley
> There are none so enslaved as those who falsely believe
> they are free...!
> Warmonger Bush/McCain Wants 100 War in Middle East With
> Your Children...!
>
>
>
>
> HRH Lee Mentley
> There are none so enslaved as those who falsely believe they
> are free...!
> Warmonger Bush/McCain Wants 100 War in Middle East With Your
> Children...!
>